London Neighbourhoods Online unconference 2010: Thoughts

Update19.35: There’s now links to three other blog posts from the unconference posted into the comments at the bottom of this post which are well worth checking out, plus;
* The Twitter hating grumpy view from Erith posted in the brilliantly named Arthur Pewty’s Maggot Sandwich and said: “found the whole experience to be excellent, informative, entertaining and it also enabled me to meet and network with some friendly and like – minded people” and proves to be a man after my own heart by dedicating a good chunk of his write up to the catering.
* Networked Neighbourhoods says “the message is that the momentum behind the neighbourhoods online movement is gathering pace”.

A few notes inspired by yesterday’s London Neighbourhoods Unconference. The nature of an unconference means several sessions were underway at any one time so a full view of the day needs a little piecing together.

I’ll add links to blog posts on the topic as I see them – please do let me know if you’ve written one or seen one anywhere by dropping the link via the comments below to share with other interested parties.

I should just add that these are my notes and thoughts and not a report of proceedings. Feel free to pitch in with your comments/recollections/thoughts.

  1. The session I offered on working with mainstream media was lively. I listened….. and what I heard was some understandable cynicism towards the attitude and motivation of big media. Following on from the previous post, we did discuss as many of those topics as we could in the time with the majority of the conversations prompted by; ‘lifted’ content, payment, linking and copyright. (We didn’t get time for ‘newspaper structure’ which some people were interested in and so I’ll maybe return to that in a future post). On the hot topic of lifting content ie. where newspapers had used text and/or pictures without any permission, attribution or payment. As I mentioned at the session, this is the exact same accusation I often hear levelled about bloggers and hyperlocal website operators from newspaper journalists(!), so maybe time for a bit of reflection in this matter. Time to play nice. Show some respect on both sides before the opportunities this new news ecosphere presents retreat into a sea of resentments.
  2. Next up I bobbed into the discussion about Local TV. This was led around a conversation about whether the right course of action is to send a letter to lobby culture secretary Jeremy Hunt to ensure that community television ventures are not sidelined. (To put this discussion into context, worth reading the recently released Ofcom Public service Broadcasting Annual Report ). The debate in this session raised the question about whether grant support i.e. tax payer’s money was a reasonable expectation for such ventures or whether projects needed to be commercially viable from self-generated revenue streams such as advertising. It struck me that this ‘future of local tv’ debate gets hung up on traditional delivery mechanisms in the way that the ‘future of journalism’ debates get hung up on print. And quickly to a deep niche (hyper) V mass audience (general) discussion. Sparked a thought about about scaleable hyper? It was interesting to see StvLocal represented at the event – maybe the StvLocal model is a disruptive model to shake telly things up?
  3. Big Society. What does it mean? I still don’t know how it relates. Answer on a postcard – or this pigeon might be more appropriate.

Other links I’ve seen on this event;

The hashtag for any other material published is #lno10. I’m looking forward to catching up with the other blog posts and pictures as the day progresses.

7 thoughts on “London Neighbourhoods Online unconference 2010: Thoughts

  1. Philip John's avatar

    I had a lot of time to kill waiting for the train (and on the -delayed- train home)!

    I’ve also blogged a couple of thoughts on the day;
    Collaboration standards for hyperlocals? and Hyperlocal cafés to continue the conversation?

    There’s one on the way about local TV, too… (and maybe more!)

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    1. sarahhartley's avatar

      Thanks for the links Philip. Keep ’em coming!

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  2. Jason Cobb's avatar

    Hi Sarah

    Many thanks for leading the newspaper session yesterday. I’ve blogged about my experience of #lno10 over here.

    @Jason_Cobb.

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    1. sarahhartley's avatar

      Thanks Jason, great post!

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  3. Angela Phillips's avatar

    Hi
    For those interested in writing to Hunt there are some useful papers (see below) generated at Goldsmiths about local media and democracy. The concerns of the research group are very much centred around extending democracy and, though the internet is excellent for connecting activists, it still bypasses many local people who need to be informed. There is a very strong demand for local news but (as the debate yesterday underlined) as yet no clearly sustainable model for delivering it. The Hunt blue-print sees the use of volunteers as a means of propping up ailing local media. I would rather see a system of public subsidy supporting diversity than a system which encourages media companies to exploit free labour but then I would. I teach journalism and my students would probably be the free labour they are looking for!
    You can find some papers here:
    http://www.gold.ac.uk/media-research-centre/project1/
    Also
    http://www.mediatrust.org/about-media-trust/reports/

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    1. sarahhartley's avatar

      Thanks for the links Angela. I found the research doc v interesting. Are the researchers likely to look at web tv in any detail? There’s some interesting projects going on in various parts of the country that don’t attract a lot of attention which would make good case studies I think.

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